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Tim A.
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Hey guys,
Sorry I haven't responded to this lately, but anyway I've actually been doing pretty good. My appetite is completely back now and my lifting has been going very well lately. I have also gained back most of the weight that I lost through this whole ordeal. I say most because I started doing cardio seriously and I feel its caused me to lose some weight as a result.
In terms of the girl there is nothing much to report. I usually see her like twice a week and things are cool between us. Its kind of a long story about this girl, but long story short I feel like I put this girl up on a pedestal and made her out to be something that she really isn't. Over the past couple of weeks I have really noticed there are other girls out there and that this one girl isn't the only one who has good qualities. Not to say the girl that kind of caused this depression isn't a great girl or anything like that, but I did make a teenager's mistake of putting a girl on a pedestal in my mind and telling myself she was too good for me.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the concern and help you guys have shown me in this thread. I know I don't post too, too often but this forum really means a lot to me as I view the members here as quality people with quality opinions. Speaking of opinions, I have never taken creatine in my life but would like to start soon. Does anybody have any suggestions in terms of how long to cycle on and then off the creatine? Thanks in advance!
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Alan
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Tim,
Creatine is easy. Here ya go: 1. Use plain creatine with no additives. Additives are worthless. Don't pay more than around $30 bucks for 1000 mg.
2. If you drink protein or meal-replacement shakes, put five grams in that. It is tasteless. Drink it right away as creatine is suspended in the drink, not dissolved. You can mix creatine with anything, even plain water.
3. For the first week, take it three times a day. After that, once a day is fine. If you get any cramps (I do), cut back the days a bit.
4. Time of day or taking relative to a workout does not apply to creatine. After you load, you are simply maintaining the level, like topping up your gas tank. As long as the level is there, daily doses to maintain can be any time that is convenient.
5. Cycling is a tough one. The concept of cycling makes no sense to me, but I have found that going off for several months and then going back on has spurred some substantial weight gains (muscle). I just can't tell you when or for how long. Trial and error for me.
Cheers.
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RonM
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Tim,
I stopped taking creatine several years ago, my doctor told me to. I noticed gains while on it, but when I was in the doctor's office for something else, he mentioned that some tests they ran me through showed excessive amounts of creatinine. Creatinine is a molecule or something that is produced as a result of creatine intake. I'm not a doctor as you can tell. At any rate, an excess level of creatinine in the body could indicate that there might be some sort of kidney malfunction. The doctor seemed puzzled that I had an excessive amount. I had never heard of the word creatinine, but for obvious reasons I thought it sounded suspiciously close to creatine. When I informed my doctor that I took creatine, he told me to stop. So I did.
I'm certainly not saying that creatine would affect everyone this way, but for whatever reason, it apparently triggered something in my kidneys.
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Alan
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Creatinine is a waste product that, if memory serves, is measured in standard liver-function tests. It can be a product of creatine use, but if you lower your take of creatine and/or drink a lot of water, it is easily managed. I haven't had any problem for some time, but I only take creatine about three days a week these days. Seems to be enough.
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wael_iron
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Kind of a random thread here, but I've been pretty depressed this past week (over a girl, I know, lame! I'm 22, I hope to outgrow this someday haha) and when I get depressed I lose a huge portion of my appetite. I haven't missed anytime lifting but I have noticed my strength and weight have been down in addition to my definition. When you guys are sad, depressed, or overly stressed has this ever occurred to you guys? Its so weird how my mental state can help or really hurt my lifting.
Yes, this happens to me frequently, fro example I do chin up on daily bases, when I'm depressed I noticed that my max reps is less about 4-5 than usual.
I'd rather not to training at all when I'm depressed !!! This is my advice to you....your workout will not going that good.
The mental approach to prepare your self to training is very important, so you have to leaves all of the bad thoughts once you enter the GYM...If you have the ability to do it, its going be alright for you.
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Will Garcia
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Ill comment since ibe been through this as well.
At first i couldnt figure out what it was but for the life of me was stuck at the same weight. reps, and couldnt budge. Wad definately depressed and my body was feeling it. Just started eating cleaner. Doing a lil cardio and the weights started climbing.
I am back to what I was 4 years ago in the past 3 months just by sticking with it. And just taking out all the anger on the weights. Had a few nagging injuries think i was pushing too hard had to slow it down a bit but been feeling real good the last few months.
Im only 26 so i feel your pain being married for 5 years and think its about time to just start another chapter.
Tkae care.
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Mark Ogilvie
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Found one on ebay, I'll wear it on leg days lol.
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Steve Truglia
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It's a fact that Motion dictates Emotion. It is impossible to be depressed while running for example. BBing and other exercise too lifts the mood. Other things that really help are singing, (don't laugh, try it!), and laughing. Taking a singing lesson or just putting a favourite song on, get the lyrics on the net, print it off and sing full out, it's incredible therapy. Watching comedy DVD's also really helps. Other great help can be found by studying NLP, especially doing a course or attending practice groups where you can experiment with it practically. Anthony Robbins has some great courses too, albeit general personal development, it's basically NLP, (he calls it NACS for legal reasons).
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Bodybuilding Wag's way is about: Being Healthy and Happy! Being Fit and Strong! Looking and Feeling Great! Drugs have no part in this. A Sound Mind in a Sound Body. quote by Wag Bennett
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