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Topic: SQUATTING IN THE 40'S (Read 1661 times)
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TMAN
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>>Powerlifters don't squat as deep as you do, and I think the depth they go to is plenty - just my opinion.
Judging by the size of their thighs, I'd say you are correct 
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BrianC
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Doc, are you out there? You are a chiropractor....What you think about squats in your 40's? Is the risk worth the reward?
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Steve Truglia
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I used to squat 450 lbs for reps and sets in my 20's, now in my 40's getting back into heavy squats. Hope to be over 500 by the end of this year. I don't use a belt.
Some things I've learnt about squats:
1) Always, always warm up and progress up the weight slowly, 2) regularly stretch your quads, hams, glutes, QL's, back and calves between squat sessions, 3) Never use a Smith machine for squats (it disengages the hams and puts extra stress on the knees, 4) It's OK to squat super deep so long as you don't bounce when your hams are touching your calves which pulls your knees apart, AND never relax at the lowest point, doing so will put huge stress on your knee ligaments, keep the muscles tensed at the bottom, 5) Always allow extra recovery after heavy squat days, 6) Don't wrap a towel or foam on the bar as is can stress the neck, 7) Keep the natural curve in the lower spine at all times, look forward and slightly up the whole time, never down, and keep the back and core tensed throughout,  Any unusual pain or twinges at any time, STOP immediately, don't struggle on, 9) keep the rep speed under control, never rush a set.
Hope this helps. Best exercise on the planet!!!!
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bamabob1
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I am 48 and still squat. Right now I am using the Ironmind squat circle they used to sell. It is just like the one they used to sell in the Old Ironman magazine. I also have a Draper Top Squat and it is excellent. I sometimes do leg extensions hard before I squat as that does keep the weight down somewhat and really warms up the thighs and knees.
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Dave Yarnell
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Let's revive this thread,please. I have been mostly a "deadlift specialist" in my return to competition the last 2 years or so. I will be 50 next month. Always squatted, but weight was wimpy. Could do reps in the 400s with just a belt years ago.
I had lots of minor injuries right where the top of thigh ties into hip ( both sides), and it really made me paranoid to use any weight. For other reasons,I have given up creatine mono supps over last year in favor of krealkilyn(spelling?) creatine and beta alanine & NO2 products and My squat has been steadily improving to the point where I recently hit a 3 lift meet. I really think there is a connection with the creatine. I think it was cramping that became so severe it actually caused damage. Hard to verify, of course. Anyone else have thoughts on this? I know you need to hydrate well, & I always did on creatine, as not doing so will cause cramping for sure. I have also been supplementing calcium lately, as my blood levels were low last checkup. May also be a factor. I am starting to enjoy squatting again,I just mix up speed work, band, bench squats & don't max out often.
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Fred B
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Brian, I am a retired chiropractor and my advice on squatting varied based on the physiology of the patient. Some people seem to have a natural ability to squat with good posture(not much flexion of the torso) and good sacral nutation/counter nutation, symmetrical hip function and healthy feet. Some are just not "built" to squat and repetitive attempts produces hip, low back and knee conditions. I found conditions of the foot like poor arch formation under load can cause knee and hip difficulties especially if the condition is unilateral-you can sometimes see the lateral sway during the execution of the exercise. Asymmetrical hip function, sacral dysfunction can cause havoc to the low back during squats.
In other words-squatting with weights isn't for everyone.
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Matt A.
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Has anyone used the Manta Ray? I know people using it with bad shoulders but would it be helpful for someone with a bad back?
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KSA
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I have one
If you have a bad back it will change nothing
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kenny g
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IMO, IT IS NOT THE ACTUALY SQUAT THAT IS THE PROBLEM, IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT MAKES A WRONG MOVE OR HAS A DISC PROBLEM THAT IS INCREASED WITH UNDO PRESSURE ON THE DISC. I STOPPED SQUATING IN MY EARLY 40'S AND LOOKING BACK, I WISH I HAD STOPPED AFTER I STOPPED COMPETITION. ASK YOURSELF THIS ?, 'WHY AM I SQUATING?' IS It A GREAT EXERCISE FOR ADDING MASS AND STRENGTH, IMO, YES. DOES IT PUT UNDO PRESSURE ON YOUR SPINE AND COULD IT CAUSE YEARS OF BACK PAIN AS YOU GET OLDER, PUTTING A LIMIT ON LEADING A NORMAL LIFE- I THINK SO. YOU CAN GET A VERY GOOD LEG WORK OUT WITHOUT THEM WITH LITTLE CHANCE OF BACK INJURY. YOU MAKE THE DECISION AND DEAL WITH IT. YOU MAY NOT HAVE BACK PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF SQUATING BUT IS IT WORTH THE CHANCE? FROM A GUY THAT SUFFERS LOWER BACK PAIN DAILY, AND HAVING BEEN THERE DONE THAT, I SAY HELL NO. PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS IS IMO ONLY.....GOOD LUCK, kenny guess
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Will Garcia
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This is a good thread.
Man some of the weights you guys are handling is monstrous.
I just turned 26 and from coming back to the gym ive been doing 305 for triples and that feels like a ton lol.
I do feel that Squats has helped my legs from being sticks to at least being decent.
I have a lot of work to do and am starting to do front squats also.
My workout partner is 50. He still handles heavy weights. 405 or more for reps. Makes me look like a baby lol. He told me in his 30's he was up to over 600 for reps.
Good thread for everyone.
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Terry Strand
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Since this thread on 'squatting in the 40's' came up, as well as questions about depth of squat, positioning, etc., I'll repost this old stale video link of some 'squashes' done in my mid-fifties.
I think that for optimum leg development it's better to do a raw set of twenty full squats with the relatively weenie weight of 225 pounds, like sixty year old Murrell Hall and our Frankie Capallupo, than to wrap, yell, psych, etc. with 405 for 5 partials.
Go heavy sometimes, if you wish, but go deep, albeit lighter, always.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KaPdFHMuKo
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Bob Adams
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If you have decided that the barbell squat is no longer for you I would suggest that you try the step up as I described in another thread under the Training header. Like many of you I have squated with every rep range and style imaginable, but I have found that the step up stimulates the quadriceps as much as any squat I ever did with little if any strain on the lower back. Adjust the height of the step or hold dumbells for added resistance. I find increasing the height as the best way to make it progressively harder for me so far. I am around 5'9" in height and use a 22" high step at this time doing around 50 total reps per leg.
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Bob Adams
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Dean, thank you for giving it a try and your feedback. I have found that two keys points are having the platform high enough that when you place the foot on it your calf should be very near touching your hamstrings. You are starting from a rock bottom positon or butt to the floor position as some call it and second that you do not step down between reps. Your are basically doing a one legged squat. Let me know if you discover any other ways to make it more difficult.
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Dean G
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Good point. I suspect the step was about 17-18" high. I am 5' 4" (and a smidge), so it was challenging but I would need to take the step to 22" to achieve the position that you describe.
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?? oops .Just do your squats Burr ,that's the most important thing ,just do them as you please, and enjoy brother!
