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Topic: Test & The Bedroom (Read 791 times)
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M.William
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The one and ONLY time exogenous testosterone is slightest bit needed is w/in medical care. And to expand on that 8 out of 10 endocrinologists simply don't know the hell they're doing in re: to male HRT since there isn't a single real meta-analysis w/ double blind clinical evidence to back it up & w/out that < I don't see how a medical school can legitmately teach anything related to synthetic test.
I can tell you from personal use experience that regardless of the route of admin. the human body is very smart & can distinguish bewteen endogenously produced & exogenously introduced. There has to be a binder, a carrier, a base and a core in any drug, especially hormones. The body naturally produces NONE of these. The avg. male makes in the neighborhood of 7mg per day and thats plenty. Much over 700ng/dl is gonna cause problems, even endogenously produced test. has side effects, the same as exogenous.
Its just not normal for a 65yr old man to have 25yr old test. levels, the human body knows this and will retaliate if its hormone levels are brought to out of age range normal levels. My test. is around 300ng/dl & I have no problems symptomatic w/ low levels.
You don't need exogenous testosterone to maximize results of pumping iron AND you don't need a high protein/low carb diet to grow muscle & get stronger. Don Youngblood (RIP) is unfortuneatly a great example of what happens when you artifically raise test. levels through drugs, in his case the stupid use of insulin whom he no doubt got from some gym doc who didn't poo about human endocrinology. W/in 18 months of the attached pic Don was dead. Barring an accident you don't go from looking like that to dead unless your seriously screwing w/ something you shouldn't have. I talked to Don 2 months before he died & he told me it was choice of keep competing and eventually having a leg amputated because of insulin re: diabetes or quit. He quit but it was too late.
I know enough to listen to my body & Arthur Jones who proved w/ Med X how committed he was into healthy physiology. In all honesty Jones died of natural causes despite 2 packs a day of Pall Malls and god knows how many injuries which combined would have killed 90% of normal men.
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Bill Mortimer
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Insulin...good grief!!
Test is another subject. The one asked.....Are you saying that Andropause is a 'Kitchen Table' malady?
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Jim Caruso
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i'm at present under the care of a longevity dr and his clinic in pomona ny by the name of dr.glassman. the androgel i use gives me around 25mgs a day that are absorbed out of the 100gms in each dosage daily thus i receive around 175-200 usable mgs weekly. my test has gone up to 750, but, my free test which is the important number has gone to around 400. now, say what you will but my recovery, hormonal profiles (including estradiol), cholesteerol especially hdl and many more important factors have all gone to levels that a 35 year old possesses. i've been on for around 5 years with no areas of problems associated with such use. that said, there's use and then there's abuse. the use of anabolics such as test has never been shown to cause any problems for anyone when properly dosed and under md (knowledgable endocrine doctors mind you) care. the problem is, has been and always will be abuse. at arecent yearly exam, blood profiles, heart test,lung test, etc,etc,etc.. my internal body has the numbers again of some 15-20 years my junior, so whats wrong with that? why is it that in this country a man can take hormones, change his sex and live as a woman (not that there's anything wrong wih that) and be seen as normal. yet, when we try to improve our health through proper use of the same said hormones there's something wong with that, i just don't get it. we need to see past the obvious fate of the abusers and not throw the bay out with the bath water!
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"to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women"!
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Jim Caruso
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yes Burr, i live near where the famous woodstock festival was held in 69'. i also worked at the new concert site for 2 years when it first opened in 06'. they have quite a museum about the fest there now as well, anyone coming upstate should seek concert and a visit to the museum. it's quite a great place they built there.
anyway, make sure during the bloodwork that they check for your free test not just the total number. the free test is what is mainly responsible for all that is male in us. also, the estradiol workup is also extremely important. they've determined now that prostate issues are caused by and large not by test, but, by decreased free test levels and rises in estrogen. while they're at it have them do a c-rp (reactive protein) test as well. this will determine the amount if any of inflammattion within your vascular system, easily fixed by omega 3's if the levels are high, but, good to know. they're the main smoking gun right now as well as triglyceride and homocysteine levels for determining cardio risks.
good luck!!
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"to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women"!
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Fritz139
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Jim
Good to see you posting again. I see your back upstate and back from Florida, NY's gain.
There was a article in the NY Times two weeks ago about the anti=aging HRT therpy for men that you described so enthusiasticaly in your post. As you know there are numerous Doctors on the Island and in Queens who have thriving (lucrative) businesses dispensing this HRT therapy to their patients.
I know I'm a conservative "Old Man" and don't want to preach, but Please Jim, use caution, because there are a number of Doctors one of which I occassionaly train with, who advise against this protocol because "muscle growth" may not be the only growth affected.
Once again, Its good to hear from you again.
Fritz
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