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Bob Scalise
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Nothing short of child abuse......
« on: October 22, 2009, 01:54:27 pm »

..........IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FKkAdbhYDU
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 02:39:37 pm »

I thought that I started young, at 12. This is a 4 year old boy and that is way too young to push the weights. Oh well Cry

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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 02:41:17 pm »

Great abs on the kid, but does a 4 year old really WANT to work that hard?  Is that much effort healthy for such young muscles, ligaments, tendons, and bones?  My opinion is... I don't think so!  For God sake, wait till the kid is around 12 and goes to the movies and sees Steve Reeves on the screen!  THEN start him out gradually with progressive resistance training!  Keep him healthy in the meantime, maybe introduce him to swimming or baseball, or just plain having fun!  Blasting out reps when you're only 4?  Too much!   Cheesy
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 02:49:42 pm »

Looks like the father is going to end up with a little person or what they used to be referred to as midgets. I really do not agree with this at all.
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 03:40:07 pm »

Aren't the ends of the bones soft and if you damage them they stop growing?
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 03:58:40 pm »

My somewhat different POV from having trained and trained w/ my son since he was 10.  Our first visit to the gym together was at his request. His motivation was apparently "to be like Hulk Hogan and the WWF wrestlers" that he saw on TV; at least that is what he said in an early TV interview of his own---me having owned Golds apparently had nothing to do w/ it.

Long story short, he loved lifting---as much as anything I suspect for the positive reinforcement of lifting heavier and heavier weights. The heavy lifting didn't hurt him. [He was doing sets of leg presses (Cibex) w/ 1600#'s at age 12.] He went on to become a 5-time All-American in the shot and discus---along the way, he was a National Merit Scholar and Stanford graduate.  He's happy.

We looked at going to the gym together much the same way many fathers and sons go fishing; the activity was the matrix for a close relationship.

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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 03:58:57 pm »

At the age of 4 Tiger Woods was playing golf for 2 years already.  Maybe that kid's Dad should introduce him to a relatively harmless sport like golf, and the kid might enjoy it and become a PGA Tour winner. 
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 04:12:52 pm »

Watching this does worry me a bit... but I wonder if it's really much different from a 4 year old going to karate lessons, swimming, etc. In both cases it's the parents' instigating the activity. The kid may grow up, enjoy it and carry on doing it. Or he might grow tired of it and stop, much in the way that I did with tennis and swimming lessons.

I guess the only real problem I have is with how stressful that looks to someone so young. I also wouldn't like to see the same kid swimming length after length of a pool until he became fatigued either.

Also is the kid actually only 4? Didn't see that figure anywhere on the link yet.

==edit==

Just spotted the '4 years old' notice on the bottom of the actual video near the start. Was slightly obscured by an overlay that popped up at the same time.
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 12:45:59 am »

That made me very uncomfortable. I'm fine with lifting for fun at that age, but not being pushed to complete reps. Who knows what effect such intense training has on such a young body? Why push a little kid so hard? What's the goal? For him to be winning 6-and-Under weightlifting competitions?

Byt I wonder if that kid has the myostatin deficiency? Sure looks like it to me.
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 08:03:34 am »

While I worry about the affects of lifting heavy on the growing bones & ligaments I am even more worried about a child having that that low of BF.
Any of us who have competed know the mental state that being that lean puts us in as well as the stress on the body`s functions & development.
I even volunteered to be part of a bone-density study to see if what I have done to my body over the years affected my bones (it had not & my levels are fine but I have also been religious about taking calcium over the years). I think being that lean before the growing has been completed is a less than healthy choice...& this is not the choice of the child but of the parents (thus I agree with Bob`s heading for this thread)
I know that being that lean can affect the height a child reaches.
I believe that a child needs a certain level of BF to develop at a healthy rate...I just think this is wrong on a lot of fronts. Just my opinion.
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 08:19:37 am »

Either he has a hormonal problem or he is on drugs.

Remember a few years ago there was that 12 year old kid whose parent put him on drugs and got him  hypermuscular?

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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 05:20:40 pm »

Very sad.
A boy at that age will do anything to get the aprouval and love of his dad.
Obviously the father do this for his own ego not for his child's own good.
When I was young we would say in the school yard: "My father is stronger than yours"
Now it's:  My son is stronger than yours.
Pathetic !
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 05:55:35 pm »

YUP
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 10:38:47 am »

Well Said Alex.

Too many people try to make their children into what they themselves never were.
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2009, 03:00:14 pm »

5-Year-Old Body Builder Sets World Record

Monday, October 26, 2009

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A 5-year-old Romanian boy has made the Guinness Book of Records after performing an incredible physical stunt.

The Daily Mail reports that Giuliano Stroe, who has been lifting weights since he was 2, set the record for the fastest ever 10-meter (33 feet) hand walk with a weight ball between his legs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569585,00.html?test=latestnews
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2009, 05:21:10 pm »

5-Year-Old Body Builder Sets World Record

Monday, October 26, 2009

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A 5-year-old Romanian boy has made the Guinness Book of Records after performing an incredible physical stunt.

The Daily Mail reports that Giuliano Stroe, who has been lifting weights since he was 2, set the record for the fastest ever 10-meter (33 feet) hand walk with a weight ball between his legs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569585,00.html?test=latestnews


Um, that's not too specific an achievement, is it?

Maybe I could set a record for the highest stack of coverless 1978 bodybuilding magazines on a countertop made of speckled off-white formica?
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2009, 05:32:11 pm »

5-Year-Old Body Builder Sets World Record

Monday, October 26, 2009

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A 5-year-old Romanian boy has made the Guinness Book of Records after performing an incredible physical stunt.

The Daily Mail reports that Giuliano Stroe, who has been lifting weights since he was 2, set the record for the fastest ever 10-meter (33 feet) hand walk with a weight ball between his legs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569585,00.html?test=latestnews


Um, that's not too specific an achievement, is it?

Maybe I could set a record for the highest stack of coverless 1978 bodybuilding magazines on a countertop made of speckled off-white formica?

Quick, somebody call Guinness!
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Re: Nothing short of child abuse......
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2009, 05:38:12 pm »

Shawn, I just posted it because we were talking about pushing children.
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