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Dan Knudsen
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Phil,
I know you are being bombarded with questions but I just thought of a good one. I remember reading somewhere that you spent some time at Temple Gym training with Dorian. I would love to hear about it and if Dorian influenced your training. My favorite dvd is Mark Dugdales' A Week In The Dungeon about Mark being trained by Dorian.
Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions!
Dan
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Jim Trainello
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Hi Phil, can you tell me total sets per muscle group for the "Training very hard" not long system? How about the maximum sets for moderate intensity? When I was competing at the amateur level I did 3 forced reps per set over 10-15 sets per muscle group. It only worked best if I was eating a ton of food in the off season, not so good for when I was on a diet.
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Natural_O
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Hey Phil, considering your great success at the '84 USA and the '85 Nationals, how do you think you would have done if you would have turned pro in 1986? After all, Labrada and Love finished 1st and 2nd at the '86 Night of the Champions and you beat both of these guys less than a year earlier at the '85 Nationals. I would have loved to have seen you against Haney, Gaspari, Beckles and Christian at the '86 Olympia. Also, you finally turned pro in '88, winning your first pro show at the '88 Chicago Pro, so how do you think you would have fared in the '88 Olympia in California?
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Phil Williams
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RE :Could you please give an overview of your training and nutritional philosophies?
As far as training goes I believe it is important to keep it clean, simple, very strict & very ,very controlled & concentrated with basic exercises.
As you become more experienced : LEARN TO LISTEND TO YOUR BODY -WHICH EXERCISES YOU BEST RESPOND TO.
KEEP IN MIND TO MUCH VOLUME WILL LEAD TO (CHRONIC ) OVERTRAINING. Get to know yourself & how your body respond to different things. Experiment with different sets, reps, exercises. IT IS AN ONGOING CONTINOUS LEARNING PROCESS. We all are/respond differently, even at different times in our lives.
BUT A FEW KEY POINTS-(that I never really compromise on in my training philosophy ) -ARE :
A. BEWARE OF OVERTRAINING
B. STRIGHT FORM
C. MUSCLE-MIND LINK: STRETCH-> FLEX-> CONTRACT...
D. SHOCK/ SUPRISE THE MUSCLE BY VARIATION ( VARIE THE # OF REPS USED, VARIE THE TYPE OF EXERSISES
As far as diet I believe in a natural ,healthy type of diet year round. Stay away from sugars,very high fats ,preservatives, low salt . Plenty of protein ,many small meals ,drinking plenty of water, some supplementation. This is just touching the surface, but It is a starting point .
PHIL...
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Phil Williams
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RE :Hey Phil, considering your great success at the '84 USA and the '85 Nationals, how do you think you would have done if you would have turned pro in 1986? After all, Labrada and Love finished 1st and 2nd at the '86 Night of the Champions and you beat both of these guys less than a year earlier at the '85 Nationals. I would have loved to have seen you against Haney, Gaspari, Beckles and Christian at the '86 Olympia. Also, you finally turned pro in '88, winning your first pro show at the '88 Chicago Pro, so how do you think you would have fared in the '88 Olympia in California?
Great question !!! Of Course we can only make educated guesses & then it is the factor of politics to consider ( crap I know, but politics entwines sports everywhere more & more it seems.. But that maybe a whole other topic!!!)
However I do believe that in the Chicago 88 condition or even better I could have placed as good as 2nd or at least in the top 6. To bad we can't go back in time ?? What are any of your views on this ?? I would be interested to get some input ?
Thanks again for all the questions ( forgive my slow response sometime ), the complements & interest. It is highly appreciated !!!!!
Best regards PHIL....
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Phil Williams
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Hello Phil,
I had a flex magazine with your back training and I got good results. I lost all my magazines from that era in a flood. I enjoyed the back workout so much I was always on the lookout for more articles on you but I don't remember any other than contest reports. If you have time I know some of us would love reading your thoughts on training, frequency, diet ?
Thanks
Dan
Back development came fairly easy for me, maybe to easy! Well not really but
my genetics as far as a very low lat attachment from the waist up,
short torso etc. So it has never been one of my problem areas. I usually started back workouts with wide grip chins, followed by bent -over rows,T-bar rows, seated rows & maybe dead lifts. Back in the 70's we had much fewer machines than these days so we relied most on basic foundation building exercises.
I have already stressed the importance of MIND->MUSCLE LINK concentration, slow strict form,full range of motion etc. so that applies here as well.
Here are 2 of my favorite back work outs :
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1. Partial dead lifts(lower bar to mid shin) 3 sets 8-15 reps
2.Wide grip chins 3 sets max reps (until failure)
3.Bent over rows (over hand grip) 3 sets 12-15 reps
4.Reverse hyper extension(Louie Simmons invention)3 sets 15 reps
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1.Close grip chins 3 sets max reps
2.Bent over rows( reverse grip) 3 sets 8-15 reps
3.Good mornings on machine 3 sets 8-15 reps
4.hyper extension 3 sets max reps
In each back work out you need to try to cover the whole back region, upper,middle ,lower & lats. Just as you vary the different exercises you vary the # of reps also..One work out you stay closer to the 8-10 s, next the 14-15s etc.
Train hard ...PHIL...
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RE :Hey Phil, considering your great success at the '84 USA and the '85 Nationals, how do you think you would have done if you would have turned pro in 1986? After all, Labrada and Love finished 1st and 2nd at the '86 Night of the Champions and you beat both of these guys less than a year earlier at the '85 Nationals. I would have loved to have seen you against Haney, Gaspari, Beckles and Christian at the '86 Olympia. Also, you finally turned pro in '88, winning your first pro show at the '88 Chicago Pro, so how do you think you would have fared in the '88 Olympia in California?
Great question !!! Of Course we can only make educated guesses & then it is the factor of politics to consider ( crap I know, but politics entwines sports everywhere more & more it seems.. But that maybe a whole other topic!!!)
However I do believe that in the Chicago 88 condition or even better I could have placed as good as 2nd or at least in the top 6. To bad we can't go back in time ?? What are any of your views on this ?? I would be interested to get some input ?
Thanks again for all the questions ( forgive my slow response sometime ), the complements & interest. It is highly appreciated !!!!!
Best regards PHIL....
Phil, you were always one of my favorite bodybuilders in the '80's (in part because our physiques shared similar characteristics so I always looked up to you and studied your posing routines). I remember reading an article about you shortly after Gaspari won the 1986 Pro World (in Columbus, Ohio) and the author stated that Gaspari and the rest of the pro bodybuilders were lucky that you didn't enter that show or the '85 Olympia because you, and not them, would have been at the top. I think you definitely would have won the Night of the Champions in '86 because you previously beat Labrada and Love in '85 and I also think you would have been in the top 3-4 at the Olympia that year. In the '88 Olympia, wow, that would have been great to see you in that line-up. That was the year they officially weighed everyone and some of the bodybuilders were surprisingly light (Gaspari was 208, Quinn was 204, DeMey was also lighter and more ripped than ever) so I think if you would have competed in your '88 Chicago Pro condition, you would have definitely been right up there. I could even see you beating guys like Labrada and Gaspari, but, as you said, politics definitely plays a part. You certainly had a great physique though and it's great to have you posting here!
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Phil Williams
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RE :Hey Phil, considering your great success at the '84 USA and the '85 Nationals, how do you think you would have done if you would have turned pro in 1986? After all, Labrada and Love finished 1st and 2nd at the '86 Night of the Champions and you beat both of these guys less than a year earlier at the '85 Nationals. I would have loved to have seen you against Haney, Gaspari, Beckles and Christian at the '86 Olympia. Also, you finally turned pro in '88, winning your first pro show at the '88 Chicago Pro, so how do you think you would have fared in the '88 Olympia in California?
Great question !!! Of Course we can only make educated guesses & then it is the factor of politics to consider ( crap I know, but politics entwines sports everywhere more & more it seems.. But that maybe a whole other topic!!!)
However I do believe that in the Chicago 88 condition or even better I could have placed as good as 2nd or at least in the top 6. To bad we can't go back in time ?? What are any of your views on this ?? I would be interested to get some input ?
Thanks again for all the questions ( forgive my slow response sometime ), the complements & interest. It is highly appreciated !!!!!
Best regards PHIL....
Phil, you were always one of my favorite bodybuilders in the '80's (in part because our physiques shared similar characteristics so I always looked up to you and studied your posing routines). I remember reading an article about you shortly after Gaspari won the 1986 Pro World (in Columbus, Ohio) and the author stated that Gaspari and the rest of the pro bodybuilders were lucky that you didn't enter that show or the '85 Olympia because you, and not them, would have been at the top. I think you definitely would have won the Night of the Champions in '86 because you previously beat Labrada and Love in '85 and I also think you would have been in the top 3-4 at the Olympia that year. In the '88 Olympia, wow, that would have been great to see you in that line-up. That was the year they officially weighed everyone and some of the bodybuilders were surprisingly light (Gaspari was 208, Quinn was 204, DeMey was also lighter and more ripped than ever) so I think if you would have competed in your '88 Chicago Pro condition, you would have definitely been right up there. I could even see you beating guys like Labrada and Gaspari, but, as you said, politics definitely plays a part. You certainly had a great physique though and it's great to have you posting here!
Thank you, thank you ....!!!
It is always great to get a complement!! Very much appreciated!!
Your kind words are most inspirational & motivating (I think we all get a mental "boost" from that kind of thing sometime..)
PHIL...
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nice to see you on here mister williams , thought it was about time for a pic on your thread. now you can post a before and now pic.
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Stu KE
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Hi Phil
I've been enjoying reading this thread, some good sensible advice here! I don't know if you are still with Iron Age or not, hope you are. Is there any unusual tip or trick you have found regarding training, you know something thaty is not conventional but that you have found works good for you? I like to hear the stuff that is a bit different, picked up some great info from this site, such as on the thread about calves by mtwain.
Another thing, you talk about not using heavy weights, what sort of weight did/do you use?
Thanks and best wishes
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Standing with the Olympia medallion around your neck -we would maybe say YES !! Laying cold at the mourge, waiting for a autopsy- we would proably say NO!! ( At least most of us..) It is a very interesting question,what is anyone else's take on this ?? 
