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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2007, 01:14:32 pm »

Laura was great Rich - I remember her well. As far as this thing with the posing trunks. I forgot to mention "why wear anything at all then if you wear something like thongs". One might as well go on stage stark naked and show all right ?  Grin

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Well, I wouldn't go that far, my friend Joe, but I never saw the sport as about sex like some guys do.  Oh, I'm not saying that many of us haven't taken advantage of all the groupies that naturally accrue around us (isn't that one of the perks?), but I'm talking about on stage.  My purpose was not to turn anyone on but to demonstrate a work of art that I created out of my own flesh.  Maybe that's stupid, but my posing routine, transitions and individual poses, were meant to create an aesthetic reaction, not a reaction in the groin.   

Richard,

I hope you know I was only joking about my last post right? But you know what I mean right  Wink

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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2007, 03:06:53 pm »

Sure Joe, you and I are of the opinion that the posing trunks have gotten too small at the same time as the stomachs have gotten too large.  It's just our opinion though, and I know some current bodybuilders feel that displaying a gluteus maximus that is ripped can add to the overall impressiveness of their physiques and might cause them to get the nod for first place.  I just place it out of bounds in my own ideal of what bodybuilding is all about for me.

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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2007, 02:13:32 am »

Sure Joe, you and I are of the opinion that the posing trunks have gotten too small at the same time as the stomachs have gotten too large.  It's just our opinion though, and I know some current bodybuilders feel that displaying a gluteus maximus that is ripped can add to the overall impressiveness of their physiques and might cause them to get the nod for first place.  I just place it out of bounds in my own ideal of what bodybuilding is all about for me.



Same goes for me weight brother, I'm not into Men's butts either  Grin
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2007, 06:13:02 am »

Richard, thanks for your response, it's helped inform me some more about your approach.

How did you manage to build and create such balanced symmetry?  Did you take a lot of photos?  Did you have people you trusted to be honest with you and recommend which bodyparts needed to be brought up? How did you structure your training to tackle those lagging bodyparts?
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2007, 09:46:19 am »

Richard, thanks for your response, it's helped inform me some more about your approach.

How did you manage to build and create such balanced symmetry?  Did you take a lot of photos?  Did you have people you trusted to be honest with you and recommend which bodyparts needed to be brought up? How did you structure your training to tackle those lagging bodyparts?

I did take photos before contests because I discovered a disappointing truth:  when we look in the mirror we tend to see our strengths and not our weaknesses. 

I've always been a pretty good judge of my own physique.  In fact, usually better than others.  I've even had people (like Bill Pearl) come up and ask me how I thought I was doing and I would say, "I'm in great shape but I think so-and-so just might have gotten me tonight."  Unfortunately, there are times when I thought I had the contest in the bag and was cheated out of the title.  That only happened on 4 occasions that I can remember, but I've even had the winner come up and apologize for beating me, knowing that it was rigged but swearing he had nothing to do with it. 

The problem with other people's opinion is that some people will compliment you to your face when they really know you aren't looking that good, and your friends will often think you look better than you really do.  But I found photos don't lie!  If I take 20-30 photos of all the poses I have, I will spot those weaknesses like ink spots on a white rug.  It really is an ego-buster!

My left side always lagged behind the right, so I just did extra sets and continually checked the tape to make sure I was developing an all-around symmetrical physique.  Sometimes I would even do extra sets for lagging parts on off days, not only just after I finished the normal sets for that body part.

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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2007, 11:14:04 am »

Richard, it helps a great deal.  Sometimes we may even know the answer to such questions but it isn't until someone who's 'made it' and is respected says it that we believe the answers to be right.

You're very right about the mirror vs photos.  What I've seen of myself in the mirror makes me happy, then I look at photos and think 'that is not what I see in the mirror'.  I've been contemplating doing the poses and photos and even getting some old style posing trunks (for nostalgia).  I expect it won't be a pretty sight nor ego boosting.  But if I'm to get myself 'beachworthy' this summer I'd prefer to do it right.

I've attempted the 'peaking for the beach' for 2 summers now, and I was not happy either time.
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2007, 04:19:37 pm »

Richard, it helps a great deal.  Sometimes we may even know the answer to such questions but it isn't until someone who's 'made it' and is respected says it that we believe the answers to be right.

You're very right about the mirror vs photos.  What I've seen of myself in the mirror makes me happy, then I look at photos and think 'that is not what I see in the mirror'.  I've been contemplating doing the poses and photos and even getting some old style posing trunks (for nostalgia).  I expect it won't be a pretty sight nor ego boosting.  But if I'm to get myself 'beachworthy' this summer I'd prefer to do it right.

I've attempted the 'peaking for the beach' for 2 summers now, and I was not happy either time.

Well, this could be the summer you do it!  Why don't you set a date to be in shape and take photos and share them with us here?  That should be some good incentive to "do it right"!

Keep on pumpin'!
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2007, 02:18:45 am »

Richard,

Well I finally got re-exrayed and got the go ahead from the doctors to start using heavier weights. My bones in my left forearm are hardened and fused pretty good now, same with my right hand. Just my lower back is a killer yet, Can't front squat yet - just leg extentions and curls and seated calves so far. But I'll get back on that squatt rack soon or at least leg press.

Boy does it feel good to train after 3 months of shrinking and getting mushy  Grin

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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2007, 06:30:37 am »

Richard,

Well I finally got re-exrayed and got the go ahead from the doctors to start using heavier weights. My bones in my left forearm are hardened and fused pretty good now, same with my right hand. Just my lower back is a killer yet, Can't front squat yet - just leg extentions and curls and seated calves so far. But I'll get back on that squatt rack soon or at least leg press.

Boy does it feel good to train after 3 months of shrinking and getting mushy  Grin

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Wow, Joe!  Great news, my friend!  We are excited for you and are looking forward to reports of the fun you're having and progress you're making!

Go for it!
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2007, 12:06:50 am »

Richard - Man am I ever sore! But boy does that feel good to me  Smiley

My chest is so sore that even the water from a shower hitting it makes it hurt (that's how sore I am) BUT IT FEELS GREAT being that sore again from pushing some heavier weights after a 3 month lay off Smiley

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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2007, 06:44:57 am »

Richard - Man am I ever sore! But boy does that feel good to me  Smiley

My chest is so sore that even the water from a shower hitting it makes it hurt (that's how sore I am) BUT IT FEELS GREAT being that sore again from pushing some heavier weights after a 3 month lay off Smiley

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If you were my age, I would tell you to slow down and let your body adjust by going slowly at first and then speeding up to a full blast.  But you're a younger man and a great champion who knows what he's doing, so all I have to say is GO FOR IT!!!

As your friend, I am very excited to see just what you will do, so keep us informed.

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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2007, 07:51:38 am »

Dear Dr. Baldwin,

I was wondering which would be the best way to train if you wish to have a long bodybuilding career. Since you are "older" yourself and obviously in great shape, you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question. I always figured that easing up on the heavy weights and doing more sets and reps was the way to go. For example both Vince Taylor and Serge Nubret train this way.
However, personally I seem to get injured a lot easier when I use a higher volume. My elbows especially seem to be bothered by higher volume training. 5 sets of 5, no problem, but 5 sets of 15 and they start flaring up.

thank you for your time.
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2007, 04:50:00 pm »

Richard - Man am I ever sore! But boy does that feel good to me  Smiley

My chest is so sore that even the water from a shower hitting it makes it hurt (that's how sore I am) BUT IT FEELS GREAT being that sore again from pushing some heavier weights after a 3 month lay off Smiley

Your good friend
Joe Meeko

If you were my age, I would tell you to slow down and let your body adjust by going slowly at first and them speeding up to a full blast.  But you're a younger man and a great champion who knows what he's doing, so all I have to say is GO FOR IT!!!

As your friend, I am very excited to see just what you will do, so keep us informed.



Thank's Richard,

I appreciate your advice and you are probably right. I wanted to train hard so bad that I thought I was 25 years old again and went too hard to fast. But the soreness I will get over in about one or two weeks and then it's full blast again  Smiley

It's great to be back.....training - it's great for the mind, body and soul and I feel ALIVE AGAIN !

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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2007, 06:50:49 pm »

Dear Mr. Baldwin,

I was wondering which would be the best way to train if you wish to have a long bodybuilding career. Since you are "older" yourself and obviously in great shape, you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question. I always figured that easing up on the heavy weights and doing more sets and reps was the way to go. For exemple both Vince Taylor and Serge Nubret train this way.
However, personally I seem to get injured a lot easier when I use a higher volume. My elbows especially seem to be bothered by higher volume training. 5 sets of 5, no problem, but 5 sets of 15 and they start flaring up.

thank you for your time.

There are many questions that can't be answered as definitively from a distance without personally observing the questioner training, and this is one of them. 

Having said that, I will make a few comments:
1. just as we all have an individual biochemistry and react to food differently, we also have individual physiology.  I have had a number of tendon tears as I've gotten older whereas my friend Leon Brown had continued to train competitively and still has had no problems. 

2. One important technique to avoid injury is to warm-up!  When I was young I rarely warmed up and continued to train the same way into my 50s when I began to have the problems.  Now I make sure I do a few sets with low weight to warm up the muscles, tendons, and ligaments before I attempt anything even moderately heavy.

3. Correct form is another thing to take into account.  I see guys squatting incorrectly, pressing incorrectly, doing exercises that are bad for the shoulders (upright rows and behind the neck presses, for instance), and they are just asking for problems as they age.

I may be wrong, but the first thing I would do for you if I was there would be to check your form on all exercises.  There could even be a problem with the work you do that could be affecting your workouts (certain repetitive moves in factory work or even typing can affect joints).

I'm a doctor, Ph.D., but not a doctor, M.D., but I hope this helps you figure out what your specific problem might be.  If not, you might want to talk to a personal trainer in your area or talk to your personal physician.

Best of luck,
Richard
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2007, 07:39:28 pm »

Hey Richard, hope you don't mind me jumping in here and asking you a question also but it pertains to the last question. Do you currently train lighter now than you used to or do you still try to train pretty heavy (6-10 reps) like when you were younger in your 20's and 30's? I am now 44 and I have definitely have some wear and tear from my 30 years of training. My lower back, in particular, seems to be getting worse. I have compressed discs in my lower back and everytime I try squatting (semi) heavy, I end up straining my lower back and am in pain for the next 4 days or so. I may have to give up the squatting or just stay lighter. I think I'm going to give the inversion table a try as a few on this board have suggested.
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2007, 02:03:20 am »

Hey Richard, hope you don't mind me jumping in here and asking you a question also but it pertains to the last question. Do you currently train lighter now than you used to or do you still try to train pretty heavy (6-10 reps) like when you were younger in your 20's and 30's? I am now 44 and I have definitely have some wear and tear from my 30 years of training. My lower back, in particular, seems to be getting worse. I have compressed discs in my lower back and everytime I try squatting (semi) heavy, I end up straining my lower back and am in pain for the next 4 days or so. I may have to give up the squatting or just stay lighter. I think I'm going to give the inversion table a try as a few on this board have suggested.

Hey man I didn't know we were about the same age. I'm 45 will be 46 Oct 25th this year.

You don't look that age weight brother - you look like your 30.

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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2007, 06:35:12 am »

Thank you Joe! It must be the good, natural bodybuilding lifestyle, huh?  Wink
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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2007, 06:43:12 am »

Dear Dr. Baldwin,

I was wondering which would be the best way to train if you wish to have a long bodybuilding career. Since you are "older" yourself and evidently in great shape, you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question. I always figured that easing up on the heavy weights and doing more sets and reps was the way to go. For exemple both Vince Taylor and Serge Nubret train this way.
However, personally I seem te get injured a lot easier when I use a higher volume. My elbows especially seem to be bothered by higher volume training. 5 sets of 5, no problem, but 5 sets of 15 and they start flaring up.

thank you for your time.

There are many questions that can't be answered as definitively from a distance without personally observing the questioner training, and this is one of them. 

Having said that, I will make a few comments:
1. just as we all have an individual biochemistry and react to food differently, we also have individual physiology.  I have had a number of tendon tears as I've gotten older whereas my friend Leon Brown had continued to train competitively and still has had no problems. 

2. One important technique to avoid injury is to warm-up!  When I was young I rarely warmed up and continued to train the same way into my 50s when I began to have the problems.  Now I make sure I do a few sets with low weight to warm up the muscles, tendons, and ligaments before I attempt anything even moderately heavy.

3. Correct form is another thing to take into account.  I see guys squatting incorrectly, pressing incorrectly, doing exercises that are bad for the shoulders (upright rows and behind the neck presses, for instance), and they are just asking for problems as they age.

I may be wrong, but the first thing I would do for you if I was there would be to check your form on all exercises.  There could even be a problem with the work you do that could be affecting your workouts (certain repetitive moves in factory work or even typing can affect joints).

I'm a doctor, Ph.D., but not a doctor, M.D., but I hope this helps you figure out what your specific problem might be.  If not, you might want to talk to a personal trainer in your area or talk to your personal physician.

Best of luck,
Richard

Dear Dr. Baldwin,

Thank you for your reply. It's great to be helped by one of the legends of the game.

Kind regards,

Pete
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Re: Training with Richard
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2007, 06:50:11 pm »

Pete,

Because you are so young, I didn't think about another option:  arthritis!  It hits us all eventually, but if the other possiblities don't help, you may check into the chance that arthritis is causing the problem.  There are ways to deal with it if it turns out to be the case.

Happy training,
Richard

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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2007, 02:08:12 am »

Thank you Joe! It must be the good, natural bodybuilding lifestyle, huh?  Wink

EXACTLY  Smiley

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