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Topic: Interesting observation (Read 617 times)
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EspenG
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Many of the 'big' Mr.O's performance declined during their reign, except for Haney. Yates got worse, same did Coleman... and even Arnold, who were not at his best in 1980 or 1975.. (even though it can be explained by his career move..).
Still, Lee Haney went out on top, in his best shape.....at his 9th Mr.O... (8th win). That is incredible... I think that says a bit about his potential, which I believe was never fulfilled. I think he never maxed out. Remember he was young when he retired. He did what he had to do. Like when Yates turned up, Lee took it to the next level... And I will always believe he could have gone much further masswise (...thank god he didn't...or..)
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street
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I think he realised Dorian was younger and fresh and his physique would naturally improve .Plus Dorian had better leg structure (larger structure) and hence size .
One interesting thing is if you follow Dorians training the exercise selection and routines are almost identical to what lee recommends for beginners to advanced .Obviously lee pyramided up in weight and dorian had a descending set to failure style.But the exrecise and workout structures are very similar.
One point though if lee pyrimid up on 4 sets of benches then really he does one heavy set to failure the rest are warmups
Early dorian pyramided up and did 2 or 3 heavy sets to failure
Technically Dorian Yates was one of the highest Volume trainers around his work rate being 2 to 3 times Lee's
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TMAN
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>>One point though if lee pyrimid up on 4 sets of benches then really he does one heavy set to failure the rest are warmups
Exactamundo. I don't know how anyone else feels, but if you are adding approximately 100 pounds to the bar for each set (bench, squat, dead, etc.), then I would say those are warm up sets, not work sets. So, maybe we are all following "Heavy Duty" training and don't even know it 
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Robert Forbes
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If Ronnie is coming back, should make for interesting viewing.
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Dean G
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In my opinion, Ronnie never looked better than in 1997, prior to making his big impact. At this point he was streamlined, had a waist and discernible ab development, as opposed to a pregnant look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9pt_zSNQUQ
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Michael Phillips
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Haney finished competing when at his very best, without a doubt. Zane was better in '77 to '79. Pearl finished in his best ever shape in 1971 too. I really don't see why Coleman wants to come back - surely he can't get a slimmer waist, and I can't see how he can get back into his 1998 shape, so why bother?
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Dean G
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It would probably cost more for Ronnie to compete than he could actually make following a poor showing ... let's face it he's well past his best. 
I still think he looked better in 1997 than he did in 1998 because even then, at the beginning of his Olympia reign, his gut was starting to show signs of distension.
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